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Planted? >> kathleen zellner is known as an aggressive defense attorney. >> chief legal correspondent for msnbc. >> she is looking for new evidence to argue the entire case was done the wrong way. she's basically trying to put the state on trial. >> in her 45-page legal motion, zellner attacks law and for some, and tries to poke holes in the prosecution's case and raises new questions. >> she notes that teresa's cell phone pinged off a tower 13 miles away later that day. suggesting maybe she left there alive. it also indications that maybe other people, not from law enforcement, entered the pr...

>> i said, that's the woman that's going to get steven out of prison! >> zellner specializes in wrongful conviction cases and says she is freed many defendants, including ryan ferguson. sandy contacted her, and she joined the case not long after making a murderer came out. we caught up with zellner at a correction no correctional institution when she paid a visit to a bring in 2016. >> million dollar question, do you think you have new evidence that could free steven avery? >> we do, yes. >> zellner invited dateline into this war room she created in her office outside of chicago. all dedicated...

Zellner notes mr. kratz says no qualifications which would allow him to diagnosed mr. avery as a psychopath. mr. avery has never been diagnosed as a psychopath. kratz, who prosecuted both steven avery and brendan dassey, says he's undaunted. >> are you afraid of kathleen zellner? >> no, i'm not involved in the case anymore. i shouldn't be afraid of anything. my involvement -- >> she could unravel your work, if what she's saying has some weight to it? you don't think she has a chance? >> i don't. >> if she so confident, why are you so confident? >> we spent 18 months putting this case together....

>> you use the word agreed, so you brought it up first? >> yes, i believe so. >> that's one of the areas you came under fire for. >> yes. >> you are planting things in his mind? >> yes, that's what they said. and there are instances that we did ask in specific about things, yes. and that can happen in an interview. >> can we take that as a reliable answer, given how it was fed to him? >> i would argue no and say based on the entirety of the interview, i would say, yes. >> as for that other moment that angered so many followers of the case -- >> all right. i'm going to come out and ask you, who...

They worked for a number of wrongfully convicted defendants. what they learned about dassey's a standard them. >> no one was in's a corner. at the moment, he needed help the most. >> beginning, they say, with this man. >> give me one word to describe len kachinsky? >> unbelievable. >> unconscionable. >> kachinsky came on board to defend dassey after that interrogation god avery's nephew arrested. they discovered the attorney made legal mistakes that caused him to be removed from the case. he faced online vitriol from dassey supporters. >> is it okay if i read you some comments? >> sure, go ahe...