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Agreement that the united states and russia were party to, for removal of chemical weapons, furtherance of a treaty that they signed, in international law that says you cannot use chemical weapons. >> there is no legal justification of this. from a moral standpoint, absolutely, i agree with senator rubio, it was the right thing to do. president trump's doing this, finally waking up to the atrocities in syria is a good thing but he should not have done this without coming to congress. >> let's talk more about this. avery freeman, law professor in cleveland and richard herman, clinical professor...

You can't do it. it's unconstitutional. we should not bomb seara. those same republicans are cheering on president trump right now. that's how insane our congress is. >> no, that's a political argument. >> that's how insane it is. >> that's a political argument. >> it's so ridiculous. you can't even get a clear-cut answer. in any event, the answer here, fred, it's done. now what do we do? what's our goal? what's our stated goal? what's the next step? if he will continue military action with the russian battleship pulling into the area, he will have to get congressional approval. >> avery, why ...

Made that decision with whatever input or power there is may be. that's something he would have to answer and i don't know if the people can particularly point to that input as where this went wrong. >> so are you inferring that that prosecutor would know about the real viability of that kind of charge on the one out of 13 officers prior to making that decision? >> we would hope our elected officials would have the experience the temperment and the wisdom and leadership to have known that. and known better. if there is a problem here in cleveland, i think a lot of the responsibility lies on th...

That it is the end of it in terms of the criminality issue. but i don't think it's the end of it in terms of civil potential civil claims. >> all right. we've got more straight ahead. i want to continue our conversation with avery freeman, joey jackson and walter madison and ryan young who is in cleveland will be joining us right after this. if you struggle with type 2 diabetes you're certainly not alone. fortunately, many have found a different kind of medicine that lowers blood sugar. imagine what it would be like to love your numbers.

Beginning that this charge didn't seem appropriate for this crime? or that there should have been more? or that it was appropriate? >> actually i think it was appropriate. i watched this trial periodically from the 6th of anticipate all the way up to closing arguments in early may. >> i saw nothing in terms of the presentation by tim mcginty who was the elected prosecutor and his professional staff, that suggested it was anything other than vigorous and professional and strong. there is nothing that we saw that would suggest anything other than the prosecutor meant business. and i think maybe ...