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The technique. >> there you go. as always, when you talk about things that are seeking approval and there are benefits and there are of course risks, but what would be i guess the ideal patient for this type of treatment, sanjay? >> it's interesting. it's not sort of to be done prophylactically, trying to take someone with minimal asthma and trying to prevent them from attacks. not yet. the best candidate is someone with severe, somewhat debilitating asthma and someone who hasn't responded to basic things, whether avoidance therapy or some of the existing medications. these are the people who ...

Practice avoidance therapy here, because the rubble is everywhere and also the aftershocks. >> right. this is not some static event that happened two weeks ago, you're still having aftershocks and will for some time to come. >> no doubt about it. and that keeps opening up those psychological wounds. one of the psychologists told me something is interesting. this period is considered the heroic period. you've got rescues going on, a lot of media coverage. over time, that's going to slowly dissipate. and that's going to be a particularly hard time for people, as far as ptsd goes. because all of ...