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Do you feel like the president should be holding out for a border wall like this? would you rather see yourself getting back to work. >> i would rather see us get back to work to be honest with you. policies aside, there are ways to go about business and open the government as opposed to holding me and my colleagues hostage in a way. i think anything on this scale needs to be talked about when the government is open, not before or after. thank you for joining us. critics are arguing that the president's proposal to end the shut down is a nonstarter because what is being offered is exactly wh...

Where we are with this negotiabling with daca. >> i think it breaking up a big immigration battle. immigration has been one of the m most vexing policy debates in the last decade. the president knows that he has to have senate majority leader mitch mcconnell in his corner. they're changing their strategy a little here. the senate majority leader when the shut down started said he would not put anything on the senate floor that did not have the support of the president, speaker pelosi, and chuck schumer. now he will break that promise this week, that commitment he made before, when he puts this...

He needs to give up this temper tantrum wall that won't do anything other than destroy the environment of the border, cause a lot of harm to a lot of people, and it will not help in any way, find a way for us to open the doors for asylum seekers coming into this country not because they want to come to disneyland. they're leaving a lot of violence and hard situations that we will not understand or be living in this this country. so we need to open the government and they need to go back to work in congress to find real solutions. a dream act. they want to support the dreamers, and find a way t...

That allows immigrants. despite all of the objections. they write this reminder today. there is something serious on the other side of the equation. real people with real lives that depend on what congress and the president do next. >> the refugee and immigrant center for education and legal services. erica, thank you for joining us this afternoon. very much appreciate it. you say that you do not trust the president as a good negotiator. talk to me about that. >> absolutely not. i mean you know as you said, a lot of my colleagues and myself have been saying that he took away daca. he took away...

Of this -- i have been hearing a lot of republican colleagues saying here is something for the da dreamers. we already had daca, he took it away, and it is not even a path to citizenship. it feels ridiculous, they should come back to work and talk about resolutions. i don't trust them. >> do you think this is a way to shift blame to democrats. it is clearly a way using them as a bargaining chip, is this back. >> it is just a gesture from the president really? >> i am surprised it did not come up before. >> we can't continue to use this as a bargaining chip. he needs to open the government,