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And state legislatures all across the country. >> there's no question about that. i was there for the first part of the administration. i was there for the president's re-election in 2012. i bear some responsibility for that. and i'm more than happy to acknowledge that. not necessarily happy many but more than willing to acknowledge that. she, it's interesting, she's very, very sensitive to this notion that somehow she is a detriment to the party as a symbol. when i asked her about that in another part of the interview, she was also very sharp in response. she resents very much the younger mem...

They're mild by comparison. in many respects. >> coming up on the axe files. >> -- >> you're friendly with rex tillerson. how do you think he's playing in the administration? how is his voice being heard? >> i don't really know the extent to which the president has empowered him. why should over two hundred years of citi history matter to you? well, because it tells us something powerful about progress:

It's hard to see price surviving. he could, and jeff sessions is still in his job, and it's a little bit of a different scenario. the president is very, very irritated by this. i can't see this lasting a long time. they don't have a ton of candidates that want that job which may save price for a bit, but this is dragging on in a drip, drip way. >> can't be easy to get people to take jobs when the idea of loyalty is fading fast. >> you get tormented, and then jet ascend. you see your own brand take serious knicks. i think that's what is going on. >> we should note, tomorrow be sure and watch a ...

It when the people are trying to do the basic survival. >> this weekend's the axe files, also the secretary of state under hw bush as well. so we'll be watching this tomorrow on cnn. thanks so much. >> thanks. >> thanks so much. really appreciate it. coming up, the head of isis, coming up with a video message. we'll have more on the terrorist threats from that. so how old do you want uhh, i was thinking around 70. alright, and before that? you mean after that? no, i'm talking before that. do you have things you want to do before you retire?

Chronicling a take on you and the people you were marching with. that as much as anything, probably led to the, the expediting of the voting rights act. they didn't like it. speaking up. start marching all across america. there was demonstration in more than 80 cities. on more than 80. college, university, campus. at the white house. at the department of justice. they were demanding that president johnson act. that the copping res act. would have been like a bird without wingsz. >> coming up next, on the "axe