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Little bit and is it safe to do that? we know in the past that never trumpers or people who have broken ranks with president trump or have criticized him have faced a strong rebuke from republicans at the ballot box. i think that's the fear from a lot of republicans right now. >> this week president trump made the argument also that his desire to get foreign governments like ukraine and china to open investigations into the biden family is all about his corruption concerns, not about politics. then you have pompeo in greece saying, well, it's politically motivated by the democrats. listen to w...

Don't think any of that will be something that mueller uses to go after the white house, but, but if the way he did business was so sloppy and so reckless and did touch on 2016 or collusion or russia or potential abuse of power, if that's what hand there are recordings of it i think that's within mueller's purview. >> the other point you have to look at when you talk about mueller is we keep hearing of the possibility of him actually interviewing the president. and if he has a volume of things that he knows and the president answers in a way that is untrue, if they in fact do ever have this in...

Without their knowledge might be a little bit annoyed about it. that's just speculation on my part. the source not providing any information about what the president thought about all of this. >> did they characterize how many additional tapes they were aware of, even if the information on those tapes is, as you describe it, innocuous? >> yeah. the way the source described it as not aware of any substantive tapes, but they are aware of other tapes, plural, that contain innocuous things. you know, sort of the call me back kind of commentary. no information on exactly how many of those there mig...

Donald trump handle dr. ben carson's status? if last night's comments are any indication, he's itching for a good fight with the good doctor and the rest of the field. >> will you get the numbers up, iowa, please? this is ridiculous. i mean, what is my competition? in all fairness, in ail fair -- what is my competition? do you think these guys -- i'm not going to say carson. i'm not going to say rubio who really is way down. i mean, i am second. it's not like terrible. but i don't like being second. second is terrible. to me. >> all right. so previewing the debate for us from boulder, chuck to...

Acceptable course is to start over. but given these honest and substantial differences between the parties about the need to regulate the insurance industry and the need to help millions of middle-class families get insurance, i don't see how another year of negotiations would help. >> republicans, though, warning that democrat who is sign off on the obama bill are doing so at their own peril. we me to talk about this is gloria borger and ayman javers is engining us as well. the white house has spent a year in knots. at this point do they just want to get it off their plate and move on? >> y...