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Negotiation there. will: talk to former uss cole commander kirk lippold this morning. great to have you on the show. thank you. pete laid out potential surveillance implications of the direction and path of this balloon over united states of america. from a distance, as you look at this, what do you think was the motivation of china. >> good morning, will. thank you for having me on the show. when you look at it, china sent the balloon with the specific intent of gathering intelligence over the united states. similar why we canceled the open skies treaty with russia. when it started coming int...

Air space around the balloon and causing all air traffic through wilmington, charleston and myrtle beach air space to be the shut down. the first chance to target the boon where it floated over water. officials i could have fired at the balloon while it was floating over montana, but they doesn't out of an abundance of caution. chinese foreign ministry responding, quote: the u.s. use of force is a serious violation of international practice. china will resolutely safeguard the rights and interests of the company concerned and reserves the rights to make further responses if necessary. retired ...

In california. its capabilities at that that height would expand much more than you would think from a hot air balloon. rachel: although kirk lip old was saying there's no doubt this was a deliberate path that they wanted to see those bases -- pete: the closer you are to anything, the more detail you get. by the way, we knew about this well before wednesday, and the only reason it went public is because there was a photographer in montana who took photos, and so they were outed on it. this administration knew about this presumably for weeks. it crossed over alaska. and yet joe biden wants to t...

Sizes. now, that's not the size of the payload or the surveillance equipment. when the pentagon says look at all the wreckage that would be created, there's ways to puncture a balloon that doesn't break up the structural integrity of whatever the satellite portion of it, and then once it's on the ground, you can deal with it. and as you pointed out, alaska, canada, montana, ooh even now over the the heartland of our country, there's plenty of places to take this down. will: not exactly subtle -- [laughter] not exactly a hard to spot and is really kind of ancient in technology. take a look at t...

Communications intelligence they picked up. it's been able to loiter. it is god across all three basis of our missile wings. that 341st, the 90th and 91st controls the 400 icbm minuteman three missiles and got part as a triumvirate flowing over that is scooped up all the information like a vacuum cleaner that move south they can see and that is where our air force base in her our b-2 bombers are at. and look that is the second element of the triad. if in a gutter kings bay that's a classic trifecta of looking or tried scooped up this information. my concern is that should have made this decisi...