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Bargaining table. that's why they feel the lame duck session ultimately gave him such a bounce. he had lost ground, frankly with independents. yes, as much as the president appears to be someone who wants to get a deal, make washington work, who is rising above politics ooh on either side, that's a day that they're happy. >> it's classic where you play your democrats on the hill against republicans against the hill and you want a t triangulati triangulation. >> well, yeah. and look. this is a situation where, look, the fact -- this is going -- however it works out, this is going to be a victor...