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New york, but they weren't at the bay, cat island. we still are getting killed by the oil out there. >> the -- i mean, for 70-some odd days now, i've been kind of complaining or pointing out the lack of transparency that bp has, even though they had promised transparency. it doesn't seem like -- i mean, that still seems a major issue that no one is as concerned about as we have talked about. >> they can't be. because they have obligations to their shareholders. just like they can't be transparent about the flow. we discussed this last night. when the guy says it's irrelevant to us what the flo...

It's far more positive. check out this blog by bp reporter tom seslar, the same guy who interviewed vicky. here he interviewed a family in the seafood business who says, quote, there is no reason to hate bp. and the oil spill was an accident. this from folks in the seafood business, which has been destroyed by the bp spill. >> there isn't one person in america who is going to be fooled by this propaganda campaign. the reporting has been so positive that you would think that they were on bp's payroll. oh, that's right, they are on b bp's payroll. maybe that explains it. >> reporter: but wait. t...

Serious changes and a sense of urgency does not take hold here, we will lose this war and it will be his fault. >> we've got to take a quick break. more with you guys in just a minute. in the meantime, let us know what you think. join the live chat right now at ac360.com. we're at the autobahn aquatic center. they're really doing remarkable work here, trying to save the lives of sea turtles. they have more than 100 of them here that they've found covered in oil. here's one of them. we'll have a lot more about what they're doing to take the oil off these turtles and one day hopefully rerelease ...

All of this bunk is -- they just lose anything that they -- they could have. i'm sure that they -- >> well, i think -- frankly, i think the bp management has done a poor job of representing their own employees. i have no doubt their own employees are working around the clock. i have no doubt the engineers -- people working with submersible vehicles are working round the clock, not eating well. i know they're trying everything they can. but that story is not getting out because they're not allowing anybody to see it. >> they put this bunk out. like the guys that drilling the relief well, obviou...

>> let's be clear, though. the epa has sanctioned the use of dispersants. dispersants are less harmful and toxic than the oil itself, but you say it's really about bp's financial interest? >> well, in terms of environmental impact, it's about getting the oil to the surface and getting it out of the water. that's the best solution bar none. and i understand that the epa has sanctioned the use of the dispersants, but i also believe that bp is in control of this situation. and they're doing what's in the best interest of bp and their shareholders. no one wants bp to fail, trust me. i don't want b...