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President would do this even if he liked you and you said, yes sh, he would, because the president is not doing this as a tit-for-tat. and not because unkind things were said about him. >> well, i'm asking you, no-no, look. it is that he is saying one thing that this is all of the sudden the law of the land, because congress has agreed, but it is by executive order and the epa is running the shots here and calling the shots and willy-nilly hiking people's utility bills 30% as a result, and 40% of our utility oomph comes via coal. >> yes, and as charles correctly pointed out, the president has ...

And he should allow incompetent doctors or administrators -- >> well, that is one executive order i would like to see sh, b we won't. >> and if ever calling for a simpson/bowles study, this is it. >> oh, i don't have a lot of time here. a lot of the soldiers and the veterans are killing themselves at the rate of 20 per day. we don't have time. >> and what do you do just throw the money -- >> well, you said shut down the v.a. >> well, you have to institut n institutionally change it. >> well, no, you said have a study and then shut it down. >> well, be clear not to give them big macs. >> i want...