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United states. this is one of the u.s.'s key outlines in what is already a volatile region. the president coming out condemning the violence, calling on the interim government calling on them to start as quickly as possible. we know president obama continually gets updated by susan rice. he convened an entire meeting. the u.s. is continuing to monitor the situation but they still have not gone so far as to pull back aid, and as you point out, that is really the critical remaining issue. >> kristen welker live from martha's vineyard. thank you so much, kristen. president obama's announcement ...

In new york. >> do you think, eric, this obviously carnage in pakistan today, gives some in washington pause about pulling back aid to pakistan because of maybe there's something to what the government says about we deal with the same thing? >> this is absolutely one of the most difficult foreign policy challenges for this administration. look, on with unhand, pakistan you would say in a moral sense played a double game, been to deceitful, they don't deserve the aid. the temptation is cut it off and give it to india. on the other hand we need whatever cooperation they can give us in this fight...

Like refereeing an argument between my two little sons. it's a matter of semantics and accounting. if trump wants to make mexico pay for the wall, he can account for it anyway he likes. he can hold back aid, there's a lot of ways to do it that aren't that much trouble. there could be a border crossing tax. i mean there could be a border adjustment tax when stuff comes in. a remit answer tax when you send money home. none of those things are very hard to do. if he wants mexico to pay for it, they don't to have consent, juan. >> he's been saying that -- >> my point to you, melissa, it's a wabt o...

I think what the eu is trying to do and what we should try to do is force the -- force the ukraine into an early election. let them go ahead and push -- let them start their election process early rather than later. that may calm the protesting down. but when i say force, i don't mean military force, i mean diplomatic force, i mean sanctions, if you want, if the sanctions mean holding back aid that you may have added to them. >> like, for example, the president of ukraine's bank account, or preventing him from being able -- like the individual. >> fine. those are all -- above my pay grade. all...