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Minor child and having a custody battle where different family members want visitation or want to determine what is in the best interest. it's the exact same situation. and the judge is actually in the same position as the judge in a child custody case, where they're trying to determine the best welfare of the child and the best interests of the child. it's the same thing. the judge is trying to determine the best welfare and the best interests of mr. kasem. >> what is really confusing to me --' maybe there's more to this than meets the eye that we dent know about. children don't have a will...

Michigan. so i'm just going to do my job. >> neil: we were talking about the possibility of an errant judge overturns this and it's in limbo again, all these machinationses back anding for like wisconsin. >> we're going to end up winning the lawsuits, in my view. we may lose at some lower court record. our track record guess on this. i have a fill osi take car or -- tear care of problems. we're getting people focused on issues and solving them. >> neil: i guess what your critics are saying they don't doubt your resolve to fix things, but whether you trample on them as a result. this emergency ...