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Policy he can explain to you and win you over on, 17% said yes. 16% the idea of can he convince you? he can hand them job. can he be viable to win the nomination. only 11. by far the biggest choice here for biden was simple electability. if biden can prove he can win trump that will win voters to his side. look, elizabeth warren, only 8, 7, 48% said they consider swiping over. they would switch over to elizabeth warren if she could convince them she could beat donald trump. these numbers keep getting 40% for bernie sanders. you get to pete buttigieg, 57%. it looks like the biggest doubt one of...

One of the biggest doubts holding back buttigieg is, he's got to prove to them he can beat donald trump. you see that across the board, from 40% to 57%. you think of how democrats are watching these debates, are they focused on this issue or that? what they're focused on, what a lot of them is, filtering what they're hearing through the lens of, hey, would this work against trump? could this beat trump? would this get trump out of the white house? >> steve kornacki, thank you for that fascinating number. and as always, as we head to a break, our conversation on the other side, yes, let's liste...