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My experience in the middle east people use it because they don't want to be traced. what's your reaction when you hear jared kushner was using it and communicating with the saudi crown prince? we understand is one of the people he's communicating with? >> right, this may well be a violation of the presidential records act, but this is very serious. we should remember jared kushner was alleged to have attempted to setup a back communications with the russians during transition if you remember that reporting. and both jared and ivanka were denied or serious questions were raised by intelligence...

Information has been hidden and efforts have been stonewalled. for us it is all about transparency so the american people can judge for themselves. >> reporter: the basis includes holding back communications, stonewalling deadlines, and engaging in potential fisa abuses. the final straw in the decision to do this, rosenstein had a conflict. jim jordan had this to say. >> we are tired of the justice department giving us the finger and not giving us the information we are entitled to to do our constitutional duty. >> reporter: the ranking members of the house judiciary oversight and intelligence...