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Each one of those can lead not only in cost savings but allow us to not have to roll back coverage on who knows how many thousands or hundreds of thousands or millions of people. >> governor kasich, the fact that the senate bill is being crafted in secret by a small group of republican senators, it's unclear at this point what exactly is in it. as a republican, is that lack of transparency acceptable to you? >> well, what, you think i'm going to say yes, anderson? of course it's not. they've got to let people know what they're doing. this is like a sixth of the united states economy, and they'...

Week. how much would this health care bill benefit from actual cooperation? how much would that change the equation here? >> you know, i've never had a good idea in my life that the moment i started talking about it with staff or people around me it didn't get suddenly better. and to think that a small number of one party are going to come up with the right solutions is kind of crazy. you know, governor kasich was talking to me a couple weeks ago and we kind of joked about if you went through the whole list of issues there's probably only, you know, 5% that we really disagree on. we could find...

That again and again and again. and you know, governors are aware, we're aware of the rubber meets the road and we're the ones that have to implement this stuff. i think republicans and democratic governors working together, we'll be able to come up with a better a approach to this isn't going to roll back coverage on so many people. >> thank you so much. always great to see you. >> nice to see you. >> let me braing back my panel. i want to play what nancy pelosi had to say. the most important thing is these are people's lives that are at stake. there's also a political component to that. let'...

With red tape and things like that, but that has nothing to do with the affordable care act or obamacare. the physicians i represent internal medicine doctors, the largest specialty in the united states are strongly committed to the idea that their patients should have access to affordable health care. what we know is that the bill that will be going to the house on thursday would roll back coverage for millions of people and get particularly the most vulnerable and that really sticks in our craw. a society should put its greatest attention to supporting those who need help the most, the poor ...

Getting worse and worse by the day and yet you watch the fake media, the fake news and they try and build it up. it's a disaster, fellas. it's a disaster. >> your reaction to that, robert? >> physicians have frustrations with red tape and things like that, but that has nothing to do with the affordable care act or obamacare. the physicians i represent internal medicine doctors, the largest specialty in the united states are strongly committed to the idea that their patients should have access to affordable health care. what we know is that the bill that will be going to the house on thursday w...