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Lawyers on this, is that realistic how you see this happening in the weeks and months ahead? >> it is. phil i learned already one lawsuit is in the works. it could be several hours away. but they're starting, these liberal lawyers have been on the phone burning the phone lines. keep in mind they're veterans of the trump administration and the policies, they're been through the travel ban, the asylum ban, the effort to push back daca. they're ready to go. there's a variety of people who can try to bring suits, for instance, states, counties, cities. we've seen el paso talk about they would move...

Unraveled from there. democrats and republicans need to come together and grow up and find a solution here. i know that is very far-fetched. but there is a lot of finger-pointing and people are trying to one up one another to try to point blame at the other party, and who is losing? the american people. >> i'm guessing in a way that intellectual honesty, i might agree on that. at the end of the assessment there. >> absolutely. and you just had a congressman say that it was an embarrassment that the government shuts down. nobody wants the government to shut down. but what i find to be an even b...

If they wanted to. is there something they want that they could only get in the lame duck session? ainsley: daca reform. both sides want prison reform. brian: number one priority for democrats is infrastructure. if they could say we start off next year with infrastructure and there was some way to do that besides each other just wink wink and ad no. ainsley: i doubt it. it doesn't look like they will compromise. president saying do the daca funding if you give me the wall and said no to that. steve: the president said no to that. ainsley: the president a few month ago or a year ago yes, i will...

Portion of the border i get that he has had to explain to them some of these border patrol want to be able to see through what's coming and they can't do that. he actually was flexible in that area. they have walked away. when the question came a couple of days ago to nancy pelosi about hey, what about daca, what if you put daca on the table? two separate issues because courts have pushed back on the president who pulled back daca. ainsley: she doesn't want the wall because she says it's immoral. steve: she did say it's immowrl. as you look at the news stories and it was a talking point runnin...

Legal but their theory and saying it is not legal is some interpretation of this international law and i hate to break the news but in the united states american law applies and the thought that it could be outrageous to tell people that since asylum is a discretionary act by the state and that means the state can put whatever conditions on it that it wants, what you have to do to come into our country is enter legally which means you have to be present in the country legally or you have to come through a port of entry where we can process he rather than come like a mob over an unguarded or sp...