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Prosecute all of them and so they are released. used to be before daca that the local county sheriff would release them to i.c.e. in the hopes i.c.e. would deport them. we have many cases of such individuals getting the daca amnesty. they've been arrested and haven't been convicted. but that arrest isn't enough to disqualify them from daca. the daca, we shouldn't have any illusion, it is a cross section of the illegal alien population. there are criminals and scholars, but it's not a -- an especially higher achieving cross section of the -- >> we have to make it clear, if you're not convicted ...

He has to do something. >> why not allow the courts to just rule on it? >> well, he potentially could. however, president trump campaigned to say he would eliminate this and he said he'd do so on day one. here we are 200 plus days in the administration and he hasn't done it. >> this has come up over the recent weeks and there's pushed the decision, pushed the decision. there was a sort of hesitancy to make a final decision. the president himself at times has seen torn about this. he seems touched by the daca stories even though he publicly campaigned to end it and there's a suggestion even ear...

Democrats want to keep daca, republicans want some sort of face saving measure on the border. they're not going to get a wall, i can tell you that with near 100% certainty. there's some sort of immigration package that could be cobbled together in the coming months according to republicans i talked to. now, i don't think that republicans in congress are going to vote to overturn what trump did. i don't think they have the political will, the political courage or the capital to do so. but paul ryan is saying the time has come for changes here and he -- he'll do something on this. i think we'll ...

Happened in 2016. and whether it did or not, donald trump did something probably illegal in firing james comey to keep the truth from coming out. so you can't put it out there if is all -- all out there is problematic. >> does that -- some people call them cover-ups, others say it's them changing their story. does it concern republicans there are so many varying explanations for things? >> look, in order to get anything done, nothing moves in congress unless it's pushed and that requires the full bully pulpit of the white house. for anything that distracts from tax reform or these other items ...

Optimistic, hopefully i won't be eating my words. paul ryan came out and said, he does not think that trump should take this action, orrin hax and other right wing republicans have said the same thing. and i think it would be very embarrassing to be overruled by congress. what happened most of saul showing that he is powerful. >> you mentioned paul ryan, the speaker of the house. he is under some pressure now for republicans on the hill not to end the daca program. >> there's a lot in the news right now that the president might be looking at pulling back daca. the dreamer's act. >> i don't thi...