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They're really i call them i use the term delinquent, that's exactly what they are. >> joining me christopher dickey, world news editor for the "daily beast." let's jump in, is the president's threat realistic and are european allies even concerned? >> you know, if he had gone, if we had heard more of that quote, went on to say -- main they should pay back dues, they're delinquent. maybe we should look back at all the money they haven't paid over the years and start telling them they should pay that. what was he talking about? nato members as if they were paying dues like at the mar-a-lago cou...

Ra a iraq and syria, then the u.s. position. a time where we need the withdraws on what seems to be a whim of the president's. ukrainian government to be strong in the face of pressure. you're in the region. the iraqis are impacted by this, certainly. we've all been talking about how russia and turkey and iran and this is one of the by products syria, assad, are the winners. of this washington drama that has real world impact in our today, secretary pompeo called foreign policy. the turkish foreign minister to >> what about john bolton. express some concerns that they you work with him. is he ...

Expenditure. we are talking about trade. we have a very, very good relationship with the chancellor. we have a tremendous relationship to germany. >> mike: is that the president giving both the carrot and the stick to >> for german domestic politics, i'm not sure it helps angela merkel all that much for donald trump to say he's got a great relationship with her. i agree with everything mollie says about this is deep historic -- i don't know that they owe us back dues or anything like that, and i also think there is a very well-established finding and historical literature that when germany sta...

>> tone, tone, tone. >> you made a really important point, he was in the speech very much speaking to not like it was a campaign rally, he was speaking to the domestic audience. he's done so much in his presidency which has been about speaking to his base. i think he thought as much as anybody he was not just thumbing his nose at everyone's expectations and the establish the and nato, but he was also speaking to the trump voter back here in america that says, damn right they should pay more, they should pay their dues. of course they should pay back dues. >> it's colossally -- >> i'm not justi...

Like a brzezinski i check the index for my dad. and you say while his epic feud with carter's national security adviser has long been the stuff of legend, his use of the press for self-defense is less well known and you go on to write that my dad tried to get him fired or something. i don't know. do we want to talk about this feud? should we lay it out there? >> well, there are many feuds. >> i don't think there was one in the end. i saw them getting along quite well. >> yes, he was a monumental ego and a monumental personality, but also monumental achiever. and watching what you've been talki...