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Baltic states again, gobble up in terms of sphere of influence ukraine. but he is constrained by the world order that puts a premium on little countries' rights. little countries have right in the general assembly and the sense of right and wrong. that true? he wants to go back to preworld war ii rules of engagement, rules of power. >> i would disagree a little bit. i think he wants to go to a post world war ii world order. he wants russia to be one of the two great powers. and he wants russia to have the opportunity to expand. his basic instinct is not even so much to grab back everything tha...

Little countries have right in the general assembly and the sense of right and wrong. that true? he wants to go back to preworld war ii rules of engagement, rules of power. >> i would disagree a little bit. i think he wants to go to a post world war ii world order. he wants russia to be one of the two great powers. and he wants russia to have the opportunity to expand. his basic instinct is not even so much to grab back everything that the soviet union has, although that would be a good start, but to be expansionist. he is an imperialist. >> what stands in his way now? >> well, what stands in ...

This was the platform, practically, how do you implement that? i don't see a way forward for this policy without sending in the national guard. by which i mean, how do you deport these people? >> you can use immigration and customs enforcement, border officials. >> there is not enough to go around the country door-to-door and drown people up. my point being, if you support the policy, if you support the policy, you should support this mechanism, because there is no other practical way to achieve it. >> so now we go to mr. sensitivity. >> no, we are missing the point that this is nothing new. i...

Paid back everything that the american people through the state department have done for me. >> wow. well, including your post there are major holes right now within management at state. i want you to tell me since you were there and you know, what's missing, i should say now secretary tillerson is going to walk in logistics, day today -- day today functioning, what's different. >> there's a difference at the policy side, but does not mean that the department is paralyzed. there are thousands of public servants in the civic service and foreign service who believe sincerely the work they do eve...

What we're seeing is the worst of how washington works. money, influence, people sitting down with cabinet donor, changing the ethic rules. that's not making america great again. it's bringing back everything that's bad about washington. >> the bad news is we have no time left. the good news is i'm definitely inviting you back. we need to take a break. up next, only three days left until donald trump's inauguration. we're going to take you live to capitol hill where the president-elect will be immediately before and after he takes the oath of office. ♪ audi pilotless vehicles have conquere...