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Political spectrum, you are aware that there is news from somewhere else on the political spectrum. i am assuming that that is similar in russia. so how are russian people being sold on the idea that there was an independent press that just up and vanished? >> i think everything that you are seeing here has been part of a years-long effort. within russia, by putin's regime, to kind of normalize and prime the russian public for what is happening right now. it starts with just this the stalled ship for world war ii, patriotism, and bravery in russia. that is something that has been nurtured. the...

People did during world war ii to fight back nazis, and forget 27 million soviet union residents or people were estimated to have died during that conflict, and my grandparents took part in it, you know, every russian has some relative, family member, they can relate to there, so it is a real manipulation of this kind of collective memory, to use that, and then now start building this narrative of naziism, within the ukrainian government. and so you know, it's just these kind of slow drips of information, of resentment against the west, that i think has primed people to slowly start normalizin...