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And now he's trying to disrupt a whole other big industry? >> and it would be -- twitter is on their road show with bankers, he's on the road meeting with small business openers in different cities across the u.s. and canada. we caught up with him and he's really focused on an area that he says needs help. it's commerce. he said small business owners have to spend too much of their time with back office stuff. not able to be out in front and working on the business, trying to grow their business. he thinks this is an area that he could contribute with. squares has been around since 2009, but t...

A couple of years later, he is one of the richest guys on the face of the earth. >> and we still don't know the impact really, willie. it's so new, so young. we see the privacy issues. we talked about it on this program before. what's going on with facebook and how it powers so many other zinga, you know, the game companies, the music businesses, all of these other things. facebook is in its infancy. but people told him no. got mad at him at harvard. he dropped out. he left and did it his way. and it's hard to do that, but that's what the real successes come from. >> we don't know if facebook ...