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That there is nothing to see here, that you know, that we're supposed to believe that one would take out a loan on their house to pay off somebody, you know, it's just not making sense. and there is reporting michael cohen was complaining to friends, saying i didn't get paid back process. and i couldn't reach the president. and so it's clear what was going on here. if they would have come out in the beginning and said it happened let's move on i think this would have gone away. >> this is what i'm saying. the whole -- the whole defense is that this is an iron clad nda she is talking and everyo...

Know, it's just not making sense. and there is reporting michael cohen was complaining to friends, saying i didn't get paid back process. and i conreach the president. and so it's clear what was going on here. if they would have come out in the beginning and said it happened let's move on i think this would have gone away. >> this is what i'm saying. the whole -- the whole defense is that this is an iron clad nda she is talking and everyone saying nothing to see here move along. why did it happen? what is the truth behind it go ahead, joe. >> it's a iron clad nda with who who is it with. >> th...