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Are looking into penalties for crossing state lines for abortions. we surprised to see that rolling back roe would result in some states seeking to strip some women and pregnant people from the right to travel freely in this country? >> well, thanks so much for having me on tonight. i am not shocked, based on what we have seen in texas, over the last several decades. but i am outraged and i think everyone should be outraged at what we have seen. for decades we have heard republicans say that this is an issue for the states to decide. as you mentioned, immediately they are calling for a federal...

Land and that they could be the subject of an impeachment inquiry. is there a likelihood there? >> if you're asking me, i would say no. clearly what brett kavanaugh said to susan collins was not the full story from where he sits. he wrote a concurring opinion yesterday, christi, where he acts as if, of course i was poised to overturn roe, of course i thought it was not solid precedent. he went through all the reasons of why the action he was taking yesterday was so correct, that it was time to roll back roe. and he didn't act at if this was some new epiphany he had. he outlined his view of pre...

Making serious headway, but he had not given up. and neither had the three liberals who do not want to see row completely rolled back. meanwhile the other justices who have tentatively signed on with alito are no doubt trying to get modifications in that. so that process is all going on, john. while they're now under this microscope. it already was going to be difficult to do delicate negotiations and now with what's happened, and can i just say one other thing? 30 years ago this act week is when they were resolving planned parenthood versus casey. you remember that in 1992 when everybody thou...

This definitely hurts his case. but again, i still think there's a chance that what we saw this week may not be the law. may not reverse roe to the extent. >> there's a lot in the ruling but one thing that raised a lot of eyebrows is the way justice alito justifies rolling back roe. he writes the inescapable conclusion is the right to abortion is not deeply rooted in the nation's history and traditions. he also names other rights that are similarly not rooted in the nation's history and traditions but then claims that it doesn't touch those rights. do you think people can reasonably buy that? ...

The city council, the assembly, the state senate, all young, vigorous, smart, many of them joining us with a strategy session, press conference and steps that we want to take. one thing we need to do is ratify the equal rights amendment, so that there is a framework in the constitution to protect women. as justice sotomayor said, if you roll back roe, then you put in jeopardy every single privacy decision that the supreme court has ever made, including the griswold decision and the right to contraception, even, all of these privacy -- it rolls all of that back. it's very, very serious. and one...