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There's very smart people inside the white house, the whoever it is, i don't see that on a theory analysis working for them. >> i don't either. >> they do it. >> but they do it a lot. >> yeah. i don't think -- >> he does its by tweet a lot. >> ok. >> the timing was suspicious, right? >> we know that every politician wants to get the gun off the bird in certain situations. so -- the motion in a he's going to hold back security clearances to punish them is -- >> i think the timing was self serving to distract. we'll see what he does. santorum makes it interesting but dangerous argument in respon...

Not need another major, high-profile departure from the white house right now. and i think based on all of the trouble that john kelly had over the past couple of weeks, if the president had simply said to john kelly that, you know, despite your policy, pulling back security clearances for people with interim clearances, that jared kushner would still have access to classified information, i think that would have put john kelly in a really tough spot. i think he would have had to have made a decision as to whether or not he was going to stay or go. and i think if he would have left, that would...

Back security clearances for people with interim clearances, that jared kushner would still have access to classified information, i think that would have put john kelly in a really tough spot. i think he would have had to have made a decision as to whether or not he was going to stay or go. and i think if he would have left, that would have been really problematic for the white house. >> lots more to discuss. when we come right back, why hasn't president trump ordered the man in charge of u.s. cyber command, admiral mike rogers, to stop russia's hacking attacks on our democracy? mvo: you're n...