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I wish reince all the best, but it's a job. the president is going to put the people around him, and every executive is going to do that who they have the most confidence in and can get the job done that needs to be done. >> he's a retired four-star marine corps general. can he bring some order to the white house? clearly there's been so much disarray lately, so much back stabbing, palace intrigue some are calling it. what do you think? >> if a general can't do it, i don't know who can. they're disciplined, they're orderly, they're structured, they know what it takes. they know the chain of co...

Down on leaks. >> not to mention the guy in the white house used to prepare to be john baron. michael steele, if chris matthews were here today, i feel that i can channel him. he would say at the end of the day at a certain point, governing is supposed to be about doing things. having an agenda and doing they will. it feels like 80 to 90% of this white house's time and energy is consumed with infighting, back biting, back stabbing, front stabbing. who is the person who knows anything about getting bills passed, governing. is there anyone who can do it? he may be a brilliant guy but he doesn't ...

Anything like this before in the white house, the back stabbing, the attacks leveled against reince priebus yesterday, steve bannon, chief strategist at the white house. have you ever seen this kind of talk so publicly announced? >> no, i don't think anybody has. they left it all in the yard. they took it to the lawn and mess it up ed it up in the yard. some people can get things done in those conditions, some can't, so we're going to see. the president is making some changes. he has the right to do that. he needs a comfort level. he has to make sure he believes the person there is serving it ...

Under confidence plus insecurity always equals paranoia and back stabbing. so what you have to do as a manager is you have to go through the process and the system and figure out where the back stabbing is coming from. that will lead you to the people that are insecure or under confident. if you can't bolster them and make them better, then you have to remove them from the process because then it becomes addition by subtraction. that's what i know. >> understood. >> so i don't want to talk about anybody specifically because we're on a live television wire, but the people know. the journalists ...

I know you got to see it live feet away. i want to share it with our audience. what the president and i would like to tell the leaks, who the senior leakers are at the white house. always equals paranoia and back stabbing. what you have to do is go through the process and the system and figure out where the back stabbing is coming from, that'll lead you to the people that's in secure and if you cannot bolster them and make them better then you have to remove them from the process because then it becomes addition than subtraction. i don't want to talk about anybody specifically because we are o...