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Newman arrested. joining me now is sam nunberg, former political advisor to the president before and then during the 2016 campaign. let's talk about the culture of back stabbing at the white house. you have omarosa making tapes or just back stabbing in donald trump's inner circle. you have michael cohen making tapes. you have 24 people talking to "the washington post" on any given day about what's going on in the white house. does the fish rot from the head here? >> look, i must have been naive. i never taped or recorded. in fact when i had a conversation recorded that was played back to the p...

Having worked in the white house, the idea that anyone would bring in any recording device into the situation room is stunning. it was an honor system, that we all left them outside. i want to ask you about some reporting in vanity fair that omarosa is crippling the white house and ask you if you're hearing anything along these lines. vanity fair reporting in a white house already crippled by back stabbing and paranoia, use of omarosa's tapes landed like a bomb effect. ly paralyzing proceedings. worse, tapes deepened another fear among trump staffers omarosa is not the only one who secretly re...

Being able to do anything about it for a really long time. and now this is sort of adding insult to injury for them. but there is a sense that this culture of back stabbing and lack of trustworthiness and lies is so deep that omarosa really epitomizes it right now. she is the person who really shows just what a snake pit the white house can feel like sometimes. i think the people who work there know that better than anyone else and the tapes add insult to injury. they go back, not just through the white house but, obviously, she has some tapes from her time on the campaign and she's not respec...

24 hours is not a surprise. we have two money grubbing back stabbing fame staking reality stars who are no longer a member of society and here we are having this conversation. >> including the president himself. >> i want to make sure this is the president you supported, right? >> yes, that's true. i supported his policy and i voted for him. i wish that we are not having this conversation. >> are you stunned of what he said? >> do you think it reflects the man he is today? >> are they going to be white skin or black skin? >> an assortments. >> the way he talks about them is deeply troubling bu...

Man. i've met him through non-political means and he has always been an incredibly warm and generous person. i have never seen that side of him. everybody that i talk to, no one has ever seen that side of donald trump. and only until now when it becomes politically expedient to sell a book does she try to say this. it's part of the problem with our politics today and it is unfortunate that omerosa has just really committed in my opinion treason against the man who really created her and it is just unfortunate that we're seeing this type of back stabbing. >> julie: let's get back to her in the ...