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Without compromising on the essential health benefits, have some significant flexibility in the way they build their own programs. want to ask you about that. >> uh-huh. >> some of these -- there are going to be folks that argue that you aren't fully protecting those folks with preexisting conditions, that you are taking healthier people out of the larger pool, allowing them to be put in a cheaper catastrophic-only pool which then of course over time could only raise the premiums of the sicker -- in the pool that wants more benefits, that wants some of those things. isn't that what is happen...

The states for the states to do that which is best for that state. if you're in a state which is not expanded medicaid, you're going to do great. in all those lower income texans, floridians will have dollars in their state to help them get health insurance they currently do not have. we do you best to hold you harmless. we're running through the chip program. i hear no one complain about the chip program. the chip program has been recognized to be an effective way to provide access to quality care to those in need. we take it through the chip program. whatever waiver a state wishes to have th...

If you're in a state which is not expanded medicade, you're gonna do great. all those lower north carolina texans, virginians, floridians will have dollars in their state to get health insurance that they currently do not have. if you're a state which has expanded medicade we do our best to hold you harmless. we run it through the chip program. i hear no one complaining about the chip program. the chip program is something on a bipartisan basis has been recognized to be an effective way to provide access and quality care to those in need. we con patient protection. whatever waiver a state wish...

I don't care who lawyers up and who gets in there, it's not going to matter, because there's the truth and that will come out and unfortunately for donald trump it's not going to be, as malcolm says, won't be pretty. >> donald trump throughout his life whenever he has gotten in a jam, when he had a massive bankruptcy, when his divorces, everything, he turned to the new york tabloid press as a way to agrandize himself. i'll ask you and claire, is this an attempt to sort of create and dazzle the new york tabloid press, to dazzle "new york times" and to sort of rely on the back stop of new york m...

Civil rights, voting rights, you can argue about whether this is a good thing. it's certainly the trump agenda. what it's all about is russia and how fixated the president is on the unfairness he proceeds of this investigation and he blames sessions for it. policy doesn't matter. >> it raises the question of whether playing checkers is a smart move in a chess game involvings is. he is why. if you don't get rid of sessions, mueller comes out with his findings and it is -- we found this and this, but nothing really major. he is a back stop for president trump. if he removes sessions and you put ...