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It's -- it's -- now it's $15 trillion and we need it to be $16 trillion. we don't need it to be. it's gonna be. >> it's gonna be. let's back track for a second and this was built into the debate over the summer in congress, agreed to this, correct? >> ok, look, this is almost automatic. the debt ceiling is going to be raised. we are going to get authority to raise, borrow an extra $1.2 trillion. now, just go forward a little bit. by election day, our outstanding debt in america is going to be well over $16 trillion. you know what it was when president obama was sworn in? $10.6 trillion. in oth...

christine is busy preparing a thanksgiving feast for thursday. >> it's a full week. >> and ali is preparing to eat one. >> that's right. >> so they're off today. i'm carol costello along with alina cho. welcome to "american morning." first, new details in a plot to plant pipe bombs in and around new york city. 27-year-old jose pimentel, arraigned and made bail an hour ago. a muslim convert to plotted to bomb nypd pa control car, post office and returning u.s. troops and he was doing much more than just talking about it. our deb feyerick is here to tell us more and it appears this l...

he also says he reported it. in the same e-mail he said he had discussions with police and with the official at the university in charge of police. listen to mcqueary now, this is what he told a cbs news reporter. >> you have any idea when you think you might be ready to talk? >> this process has to play out. i just don't have anything else to say. >> okay. then, just one last thing. just describe your emotions right now. >> all over the place. just kind of, shaken. >> crazy. >> crazy. >> you said, what -- >> like a snow globe. >> let me bring in andrew mcgill, he's one of the frt re...

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Will go back. like the old john wayne movie, don't apologize, shows sign of weakness. not going to apologize or back track, dead set on following through. >> believe it happened or saving face? >> did it happen? it didn't happen. >> does he truly believe it happen or is he saving face? >> i'm not sure what donald trump believes but fact he's willing to make not only himself but entire administration and spokespeople let them look absolutely ridiculous over these -- which are seemingly look like false claims is really baffling to me. so many more pressing things that donald trump can go to the ...