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Meetings or business transactions with russian officials. so shawn turner with me in new york today, so nice to have you in. thanks for being here. how many times can you omit information, you know, national security forms and not have a serious problem? >> yeah, you know, i think we are beyond the point where we can give jared kushner the benefit of the doubt on this. >> you do? >> yes. we have multiple instances where he has recalled information after it came out in the media or it was called to his attention by people investigating this. i think what really disturbs me about this most recen...

He's upset. >> well, earlier this month, the u.s. ambassador of the united nations nikki haley really kind of dug into this and hinted this might be the time to decertify. she painted this with a broad brush and said this was more about all the problems that iran causes and frankly there are a lot of challenges that iran causes, the destabilization of that area of the world, the backdoor channels of funding terrorism, is this a way to kind of hint that things could really change if iran doesn't change its ways, not just when it comes to its ambitions for possibly nuclear ambitions, but in all ...

That any russian person might share information with the russian government, as i have similarly done with the cia, the fbi and other government agencies in the past, but anderson, but you as officials say intelligence say that russia tried to infiltrate by using backdoor channels -- people like carter page, but it's important to note here that within the trump campaign, carter page was viewed as someone who had little or no influence, but as we reported before, he is one of the several trump advisors whom u.s. and european intelligence services interpreted -- >> where do things stand now with...