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>> sean: the amount of contract -- there was internal analysis by your own catherine herridge, who's also been doing some terrific work on all of this. she rightly points out undermines as that the amount of contract was so frequent after, in fact fact, christopher steele was fired, and that bruce ohr was the conduit, they used whatsapp, an application to shield their communications, and then the fbi began debriefing ohr after steele was fired but steele was still feeding information to ohr. he is the conduit even into the special counsel's office. sara, how are we to interpret that? why would...

Are going to stun the audience when they hear about it because they are just not going to even imagine it coming to them that way. what we know is this. and let's go back to your first question that you asked john. you said when this all started,y years ago, let's not forget, that then chairman devin nunes, when we he was head of the house intelligence committee, looking into irregularities with unmasking of americans. remember, that is so important here because when we are lookine at the intelligence community and the government and particularly what was happening under the obama administrati...

Of this and we got, again, everybody has been warned, but they did it anyway. they still used the lying information as the foundation w for the fisa warrants but more broadly, then they outsourced spying, which would have been illegal by our intelligence community, and then they spied a backdoor way, joseph misfud, stefan helper looking into carter page, sam clovis, and geroge papadopoulos. all right, stay right there, yot were going to be with us. for the rest of this hour. joining us live now on the phone, former new york mayor, mr. rudy giuliani. the amount of contact with christopher steel...

By the way, we just heard that by the way, there will be more into come on then. mccabe was caught red-handed leaking government information. according according to reports, he was facing a criminal investigation for his misconduct but andrew mccabe wants you to know that he has been wronged. he wants to collect more of your hard earned tax dollars. this comes from a brand-new report out tonight, sara carter, investigative reporter, revealing more information about the former deputy assistant director who was reprimanded by the inspector general for leaking that sensitive information. here now...

We are going to get back to all of this and we got, again, everybody has been warned but they did it anyway for they still use the lying information as the balancing information for the fisa warrants but more broadly, then they outsourced spying, which would have been illegal by our intelligence community, and then they spied a backdoor way, joseph mitford, looking into carter page, sam club's, and papadopoulos. all right, stay right there, you were going to be with us for a long time, for the rest of this hour, joining us live now on the phone, former new york mayor, mr. rudy giuliani. the am...