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We are going to get back to all of this and we got, again, everybody has been warned but they did it anyway for they still use the lying information as the balancing information for the fisa warrants but more broadly, then they outsourced spying, which would have been illegal by our intelligence community, and then they spied a backdoor way, joseph mitford, looking into carter page, sam club's, and papadopoulos. all right, stay right there, you were going to be with us for a long time, for the rest of this hour, joining us live now on the phone, former new york mayor, mr. rudy giuliani. the am...

He didn't say how long. he didn't say what was discussed. and if he gave him a thumb drive, i don't have any indication that weissmann then took the thumb drive and looked at it. the only reason i'm being cautious is i was also part of another interview with a guy named jared kushner who showed up at a meeting at trump tower and some of my colleagues on the other side made a lot of hay out of the fact that jared was there he didn't know what the meeting was about. as soon as he found out what it was about he began trying to get out of the meeting. so, i think it is fair to ask andrew weissmann...