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Summer. that's unlikely to happen as leader mcconnell said. as the house passes the background bill this summer or early fall and it goes to the senate and fails, as expected, the house democratic version of a background check bill, could you see a reemergence of toomey manchin. talking to people close to them, they think that ends up as the legislation, if any, on background checks, and the other piece that could be coupled with it is the red flag law which gives local authorities protective measures to seize guns. >> let's talk about mitch mcconnell, he's home nursing a recently broken shoul...

Prevented the -- >> quote, not a single thing you do is going to alter how i operate on behalf of my constituents and the country. we have asked our friend robert costa to stick around for this part of our conversation, and bob, we'll try not to keep you too long, but we have heard people say tipping point to use the famous mountain gladwell phrase, we have heard people living in a moment, this could be it. several major national magazines have some form of the word enough on their covers. do you think this really will result in anything substantial? >> here's the legislative reality here in w...

In dayton that get there in a minute. it could have been so much worse. and yet he still talking to the nra. he's still afraid of them. and i sat across from him after parkland and wrote down nine times he said he wanted to see background checks. we put a video out on my twitter feed of it. nine times he said this. you can watch it. he said it. but what happens? he then goes and meets with the nra the next day, and he folds. and so there is a pattern of this. you're exactly right. when the moment is right and the cameras are on, he acts like he is going to be reasonable. he could call mitch mc...

The house. with those pass in the senate and how would you vote on that? >> it depends on who's proposal and what's actually in there. i know senator toomey has a background bill, has a it yet. said he might. we've heard testimony on the so-called red flag laws, lots of different ways to write those laws. i look forward to any proposal. the principles, it's actually got to be effective, it's got to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, the hands of the mentally unstable, it's got to protect the second amendment rights. law-abiding citizens, they haven't done anything wrong. >> martha: under...

Confirming that president trump has talked about the two members of the congress. the last time the bill was taken up by congress was by president obama when it was narrowly defeated in the senate. president obama said it was a shameful day in washington. we know that president trump has expressed a willingness to be open to expanded background checks in the past. but that legislation has never gone anywhere, andrea. we know that a background bill has passed through the house. now you have democrats demanding that mitch mcconnell call back the senate to vote on some of those bills. is mcconnel...