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Balances the absence of the president being more forceful on this issue. so that's what's unfolding right now. details still coming into us in terms of a detailed background briefing. chris? >> kelly, we'll get back to you as we learn more from that briefing with administration officials. but i want to bring in nbc news investigations reporter, tom winter, as well as msnbc justice and security analyst, former doj spokesman, matt miller. my panel is still here. tom, you've been reading in on this. i want to know more about who those folks are. one thing that stood out to us as we were reading, ...

Would you find your work fulfilling? joining us now, andrea mitchell chief foreign affairs correspondent and the most of andrea mitchell reports weekdays. i am glad you could be here. >> thank you. >> let me ask you a couple specific questions here. if anybody knows this, you will know this. why wasn't the south korean national security adviser who got to announce this and once they decided he was going to announce this, why did they have him standing on the white house driveway making the announcement outside? >> in the dark. >> do you know? >> they didn't think it would be appropriate to do ...

Correspondent and the host of "andrea mitchell reports" weekdays at noon. thank you so much for being with us. i am glad you could be here. >> thank you. >> let me ask you a couple specific questions here. if anybody knows this, you will know this. why wasn't the south korean national security adviser who got to announce this and once they decided he was going to announce this, why did they have him standing on the white house driveway making the announcement outside? >> in the dark. >> do you know? >> they didn't think it would be appropriate to do it in the briefing room or in one of the whi...

Unimportant. what we're going to see next is this hopeless cycle that this kind of downward spiral for staff, where it's harder and harder to get people who want to go in because the mess gets worse and worse, so the mess gets worse and worse. >> let me stay with you, because one of the other revolutions today was about four white house reporters being brought in for a background briefing, arranged by sarah huckabee sanders, where the individual accused, rob porter, defended himself. i'm told that that was green lit, there they are walking in, jonathan swan, josh dawsy, maggie haberman. this h...

Nice to have incentive for people to do well, and so forth. there is a much harder line than members of the administration and white house were expected to take in a background briefing, but i think the other thing you saw honestly what this was about is not the president wanting to stake his stance on immigration policy, i think it was the president wanting to demonstrate to a chief of staff who he felt one-upped him, essentially, by going on fox news and by telling "the hill" that the president was not fully informed about his opinions on a border wall, he wanted to show who's boss. >> i'm i...