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oath keepers to stay on the outside and stay fully armed and prepared to go in armed if they have to. if it kicks off, you rock and roll. >> that was oath keepers founder stuart rhodes. you hear that audio, why have prosecutors introduced that? what do they think it proves? >> this audio is damming according to the doj's case here, these are conversations between the group that sound like they're specifically planning violence in response to political transfer of power and that's obviously the crux of the government's case in this trial. but i think on the defense side, there are obv...

Do we think that even people who see those images are not going to be moved to back this military strike? >> we've already seen video images of people suffering under chemical gas attacks. i think the issue is how much and how credible is the evidence linking this to assad directly? there's an interesting op ed today in today's "new york times" by alan grayson. and he said he has no real way of assessing the quality of the evidence -- both the public evidence and the background evidence that he's unable to share with other people. he's calling for the administration to do a better job of sayin...