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Clearance forms, background forms, or are at risk of security concern, but whether this is part of the same conspiracy we want people to have access to this information so it could be shared with russia as all part of this conspiracy that in exchange for assisting the president and becoming elected there were certain quid pro quos they would get in exchange, one of which may have been the sharing of classified information i think it absolutely fits within the scope of that investigation and so why -- you know, carl klein, it's a legitimate question to ask him why did you overrule the opinions ...

Another theory which is this idea of consciousness of guilt, that he knows that he's done something wrong and that's why he left it off the form in the past. that could be a window into what's going on in his mind which is often the hardest thing to prove. all those theories frank just talked about, the hardest part of it is proving a corrupt intent. but when someone lies on a financial disclosure form or lies to the press about something, that can indicate this consciousness of guilt. i've got something to hide and it's a much bigger crime than this little lie i'm telling right now. >> that s...

We're back with governor chris christie. should jared kushner's security clearances be put on pause while he finishes the process which, by his own admission involves i think the third round of updating his background forms? >> i don't think there is a reason to put it on pause. i think the president needs to make the judgment himself regarding this. >> if you were the president and a senior staffer had to turn in their background forms three times, if i was the senior staffer, would you want my security clearance put on hold? >> it's a much different relationship, right. >> seriously. >> he k...

They already do have a very tough outside legal counsel, that they had retained i believe even before some of the russia probe and then as we have learned his team has taken steps to talk to other outside lawyers. i have been told they haven't made any decisions yet. but they're likely to bring someone else on. that's not someone who replaces current outside counsel jamie gorelick, but help, maybe someone with a bit more trial law experience. and just a possible addition because as you have seen he's sort of had to face the spate of stories in "the washington post" and other publications and h...