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good evening, ali. >> i needed the answer to that, who will be. do you have an idea? >> i do, but i can say. i can't say. i have to respect the wishes of the new collagen, like some other people. >> fair enough, i want to go back to the conversation you are having with germany about almost people. it was a new york story but the same in every major city. the majority of chronically homeless in the city are, they suffer from substance abuse and mental illness. they are voiceless, they are homeless, no one cares. they're all around us, and if you choose not to, look you may not see the...

>> yeah, my 12-year-old has been going down for years now to testify in support of his brother, in support of a not a good friend of his strengths. the other background piece here is that my 12-year-old goes because we don't allow her nine-year-old go to testify, because the things that are sitting legislatures say uppercuts are so vile, and they are so hurtful that we just to or child to hear that. i've been in the room when sitting senators asked 12 is what the generals look like. we've had legislators offer to kids, do you need to be taken away from your parents? you need to be protective f...

. he's not going to get out of it. >> he's going to have to pay the piper at some point. this is going to keep building. the idea he's getting campaign contributions when he's working for the attorney general of the united states. >> i just saw someone from open secrets who suspects they have found the donations that were funding this bizarre nonprofit that might have been just a single donor. interesting to know. the other thing today, the president put in his -- he put in his answers to mueller. there's a long sort of background piece in the ap. they're kind of like well, we're done with tha...

Funding this bizarre nonprofit that might have been just a single donor. interesting to know. the other thing today, the president put in his -- he put in his answers to mueller. there's a long sort of background piece in the ap. they're kind of like well, we're done with that. what's the next move? >> the next move is indictments. >> you don't think he's going to come back and go back and forth? >> no, i don't think so. what you've got is -- the real back story is, there are four cooperating witnesses, there's the president's campaign manager. there's his vice chairman who's pled guilty. ther...

Both were seen as immigration hard liners. to discuss the history, white house correspondent michael shear, who wrote a background piece on each man, and david axelrod, senior adviser to president obama. much of what they advocated for led to this moment. do you have a sense if they knew it would escalate like this? >> well, i don't know that they perfectly mapped out the political crisis that this has become for -- speciespecially f republicans, but they clearly understood that the result of the policy of zero tolerance that sessions announced would, in fact, lead to separating families from ...