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Have to answer to this. it will be a discussion on the hill. >> we can look at the specifics of what the policy debate should be. which is what gets into the background system check and all that stuff. but this is more of a cultural debate in this country. until we sort of break that, i don't know, do we get to the specs? >> well, it is culture. we need to get to the specifics. i think we also need to think about local versus federal. federal will take time. if you ban every gun in the world from being manufactured starting five seconds from now, will you still have this problem. i think you n...

Climate on capitol hill, you need an avalanche of accusations before people call for your resignation. >> you see the speed with which neez kind of issues are handled in the private sector. lightening speed, like the charlie rose, within 24 hours he was gone. >> with congress, you have a mechanism that's built in to make it hard to force them out. we saw this, we're going to refer them to an ethics committee. it's a breaker that stops that cavalcade of calls to step down and gives these guys a few more days to try and plead their case. >> phil mudd, the justice department announcing an investi...