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Critical. >> shannon: a lot of people say it's a rounding error for the federal government, why the dig in over $5 billion? >> that 5 billion has been dedicated for the purpose of a wall, let's talk about the right number. i'm a former small businessman, we shouldn't be shutting down the government we should be negotiating and talking right now. president trump is listening, i hope he's reaching out to folks and how do we get past the shutdown now? >> shannon: the leaders are working with the white house, the senate has said they won't vote on anything, that's kind of the deal they have reache...

>> shannon: a lot of people say it's a rounding error for the federal government, why the dig in over $5 billion? >> that 5 billion has been dedicated for the purpose of a wall, let's talk about the right number. i'm a former smallll businessma, we shouldn't be shutting down the government we should be negotiating and talking right now. president trump is listening, i hope he's reaching out to folks and how do we get past the shutdown now? >> shannon: the leaders are working with the white house, the senate has said they won't vote on anything, that's kind of the deal they have reached now. co...

Critical. >> shannon: a lot of people say it's a rounding error for the federal government, why the dig in over $5 billion? >> that 5 billion has been dedicated for the purpose of a wall, let's talk about the right number. i'm a former small businessman, we shouldn't be shutting down the government we should be negotiating and talking right now. president trump is listening, i hope he's reaching out to folks and how do we get past the shutdown now? >> shannon: the leaders are working with the white house, the senate has said they won't vote on anything, that's kind of the deal they have reache...

>> out on the island off polly point road, the trio of former cops instinctively revert to the long practiced standard procedure. >> we said, okay, let's secure the crime scene, back out, wait for law enforcement to get here. >> so far, so good. but what happened next was quite a surprise. >> the first officer was a charleston county deputy. and i said, "we'll show you where the remains are." took him out there and said, "it's your crime scene now, and we're backing off." and that's what we did. >> but that wasn't the end of it, was it? >> no. >> no. we were detained to put it mildly. >> detai...

Justice that doesn't inoculate you from being brought up on charges for that. i think there's two things at play here, lawrence. there's the fact that corsi and manafort are both going cold at about the same time frame, and also this is happening at about the same time that the president just turned in his answers to special counsel. and so i also wonder whether the president and his team have dangled a pardon fearful that paul manafort may contradict some of the answers that the president has given. >> you mention jerome corsi who's publicly been saying he's been in talks about a possible ple...