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To me unusual. and i know we've never been in, in a situation exactly like this with presidential tax returns. but i mean just in terms of a committee vote. that it is unclear still at this moment what they voted for, whether it's a summary yet to be written or how to be put together, we don't know. or whether it is all the tax returns, it could be thousands of pages of backup information that goes with that. >> yeah, because the section of the tax law that governs the release of this information, which richard neal, the chairman of the committee used, to obtain the tax returns, is very -- has...

Backup information and such, what next? >> for them, jake, the important thing for the justice department they already have their investigations ongoing. obviously, we now have a lot of clarity that donald trump is at the center of at least one part of what jack smith, special counsel, is looking at, as well as john eastman and jeff from clark. two people who are big parts of this committee's report. those investigations are already pretty far along. >> so, the justice department is awaiting still the transcripts? >> right. >> and thousands of hours of witness testimony, video witness testimon...

The secret service has to backup the important work, text messages? they are responsible for the the leader of the free world, for the safety in the life of the leader of the free world. and they don't have an official way to backup information that they need? >> that's absolutely absurd. there is absolutely some skulduggery going on here. what most people don't realize is that the secret service was the agency that started doing cybersecurity investigations, and computer investigations, and they really are supposedly the experts in terms of understanding that the apology of the government pro...

Class on how overside should be done. they were asking for backup information and building this transcript, as chairman cummings pointed out of where this committee is going to go next. it's clear it going to go to everybody involved. and i think the prn who be concerned about that. they' they'lland throwing it out there, the contention that the mueller report may lead to some things but not come tleetly empower so the base that he's appealing to, it's what he's got and he knows it, which leads us

Like that's the right thing to do, it was also the right thing to do for kavanaugh. >> correct. >> he should not have to go through this. this did happen 36 years ago. this should have -- if this had been investigated. >> if you're telling the truth, the fbi is your friend. >> absolutely. and they would have done the interview of mark judge. they would have read his book. there would have been all kinds of backup information, and then they could have said to him privately, judge kavanaugh, you're on the d.c. circuit. your life is perfect. this isn't going to happen for you. and now, quite fran...