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>> no, it did not. it was an old computer that had not been being used. >> okay. in mueller's draft indictment, which you shared with the world, interestingly, it says between january and march 2017, you deleted all your e-mails from before october 2016. why? >> because the machine -- i had a 17-inch laptop that was dying and it needed new space. i also turned over the time machine application with the hard drive backup that had all e-mails, whether i'd erased them or not, and i knew they were all there. i was trying to keep an old computer running because i liked that 17-inch. to do so, i had...

Digital recording, and you wouldn't have the problems of the tape running out and not switching to a backup machine. there would be a way to do 24-hour recording. the white house system under nixon was a voice-activated, so it required that he be in the office. and if he was in the office and spoke, it recorded. and i don't think they would use the same system now, but maybe they would. >> i want to go to this nbc news reporting today that the director of national intelligence, dan coats, is now saying that president trump is obsessed, as he puts it, with the russia probe. dan coats told house...

Given what we know about how president nixon's taping system was set up, and there was actually a system that pre-existed president nixon in lyndon johnson's period in office. and many of those tapes have been preserved for history. many of them important historical documents. how would that -- since nixon, presidents have decided wait a minute. this is a bit too risky. so someone would have had to go in there january 20th or shortly thereafter and set up such a system. based on what you know about how that was done in the white house before, how would that be done? >> it was done with actual ...

Again without having to accepse engineer. what kind of an enclosure would make easier to maintain these machines. and of course the machines themselves are getting cheaper and thinner and lighter and faster. so is it possible that one can have a backup machine so that you can just swap one for the other. so these are some of the things that i'm looking at. >> there are some women who have also become apintegral part of their plan, they're called british grannies. explain their role and who they are. >> well, children when they group around computers don't just play games. they get tired of pla...