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Things they're saying, you've got to be concerned. >> tucker: not the first time they have a lot lost communications central to an investigation. you have to remember how 24,000 emails were accidentally deleted somehow, that hillary clinton's deleted emails. tom, my impression was, and our cyber security guys are always saying, if you write it down digitally, it never goes away. why is that not true for federal documents in these investigations? >> it is only true if it is convenient to withhold information from investigators and the american people. in the case of lois lerner, they told us, w...

>> tucker: not the first time the government has lost communicationsns central to an investigation. you may remember lois lerner and the irs and how 24,000 of her emails were accidentally deleted somehow and of course, hillary clinton's deleted emails. tom fitton is the president of judicial watch. he joins us for perspective. tom, my impression was, and our cyber security guys are always saying, if you write it down digitally, it never goes away. why is that not true for federal documents in these investigations? >> it is only true if it is convenient to withhold information from investigator...

Scandal. irs erased hundreds of backup tapes containing potentially thousands of e-mails from learner. congressman says irs commissioner koskinen made false statements about the e-mails telling congress nothing had been lost of destroyed. >> when you see this nobody will be held accountable. we tried to investigate it under koskinen's guidance the irs stone walled us. are we going to slug our shoulders and say nobody is held accountable? >> there was all kinds of intent to target conservative groups. this justice department said no to prosecuting ms. learner and any one else at the irs event. ...

It says the irs statement on impeachment resolution. the irs vigorously disputes the allegations in the resolution. we have fully cooperated with all of the investigations. well, that's not exactly right. if emails have been discovered and something is not right. >> so john koskinen said all the backup tapes are gone. the ig checked that they drove out to west virginia. they asked for the tapes and they found a bunch of backup tapes. >> is it because he is not doing his job well or he is deceitful and although both would be a good reason someone shouldn't hold a diswrob but you are saying he i...

Announced e-mails were missing back in february of 2014. in june of 23014 the irs told committee investigators lerner's e-mails from january of 2009 to april of 2011 were, quote, locked. and in june of this year government investigators said as many as 24,000 scandal related e-mails were lost when 422 backup tapes were erased. so joining us now is mike turner, a republican member of the house oversight committee which is investigating the irs controversy. so take notes of all that history there to bring us up to date. >> sure. >> so the irs admitted in federal court there is a second e-mail ac...