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And just declaring that she and joe biden had won again regardless of what voters had said. john eastman had reportedly said, they shouldn't have done that though, we should definitely do this tomorrow. just amazing. stephanie wu, the host of the 11th hour. she joins us now. thank you very much for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> what was your your over overall take. >> i was at hill and the fed today and what is stunning is how dynamic these hearings are and how shocking this is. not just to lawmakers, but people who worked in government, in national security for years, compare this t...

>> i remember he said something like that. >> like, you have -- >> it was with a different tone than i'd heard him take with vice president before. >> did miss trump share with you any more details about what had happened or any details about what had happened in the oval office that morning? >> that her dad had just had an upsetting conversation with the vice president. >> do you recall anything about her demeanor during the meeting, or when you encountered in scavino's office? >> i don't remember specifically. i mean, i think she was uncomfortable over the fact that there was obviously that ...

What they were proposing would mean for the country. and how it would get us very quickly to blood in the streets. >> as we've covered, he acknowledged we would lose 9 to 0 in the supreme court. he, again, try to say, i don't think the courts will get involved in this. they will invoke the political question doctrine. and so, if the courts stay out of it, that will mean that it will have the ten days for the states to weigh in and resolve it. and they will send back the trump slates of electors, and the people would be able to accept that. and i expressed my differs disagreement with that poin...

Conducting investigations and share with d.o.j., it is sort of a political theory as to why they wouldn't do it but they do know what's coming. >> that's a precedent that is only scary if the d.o.j. is going to misuse it, right? everything that the d.o.j. does gets tested in court to the end, in a greater or lesser extent. >> and the letter came out, often my show today, we don't have any plan of refusing the request, we're simply in the middle of our investigation. i don't think the committee is making an argument, at least yet, that this is their material to be shared, their point is we're i...

Didn't sign on to other things. we heard from a number of people interviewed who say, i was for this but not that. i stopped here, not there. bill barr did a lot of shady lawyering at the d.o.j. for -- >> john eastman, in writing saying that if it's martial law, he's not going to have anything to do with it. >> if you can't seize the voting machines. >> there's a line. >> i think, rachel, are they red lines or this is red, no, this is red, i thought the red line was two weeks, and one fewer insurrection ago. but that shows you, remember who john eastman is, i thought this part of the hearing w...