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There is also a downside, and our schools seem to be getting more rigid, less open to creativity. less open to unorthodox thinkin thinking. that is a bad a trend, then. >> it is. it is the nature and the structure, a massive system trying to push everybody through, same age group cohorts, you have to think beyond that kind of traditional rule following idea, and you've got to look at -- the opportunities out there, practice, we work with young people all the time, focus on trying to help them develop skills that are ultimately transferable and in demand no matter watch. the jobs around today, ...

Entrepreneurship in the school context is called a cheating, creating problem-solving. i think breaking out of that mind-set, not looking at it like i need to go and study and get certified and do what i am told, and then i will be able to have a career, but rather, if i want to do something, be the next tucker carlson, go start a podcast, go start a youtube channel, get your hands dirty, experiment, tinker, that is the thing. >> tucker: that is such a wise point. i'm all for following rules, but there is also a downside, and our schools seem to be getting more rigid, less open to creativity. ...