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If you just see a clue, something you want to raise. because that will be the one place that may get this person into custody. >> in your experience, mitch, given there was clearly a plan going into it, whether or not it was executed the way he thought. but given there was a plan going into it, what are the chances there was a plan for this point and beyond? >> i think highly likely. i mean, the fact that he used the smoke grenades could have been his way to literally create a cloud into which he could disappear and make his escape. it looks like he prepared and wore this orange transit lookin...

Listen. >> the one thing about terrorists, they're actually pretty conservative, they want to be successful and if they see that basically the risk of them being caught is even above a few percent, they may not go for it. >> reporter: the we're thing about the surges, is that they're random, different places, different times, and that can also make them more effective, martha. martha: what about the surveillance cameras you were just talking about? there's also a new report that half of the 4000 in new york city's subway systems, this is great news for us who ride them once in a while, aren't ...

Aren'tor you going and he bypasd chicago. he's in chicago where the murder rate now is higher than any other major city in america. it's more than double from, say, 20, 25 years ago, the rate, bob. and the actual number, 508 last year. on pace to break that number this year. all the while, there is a hand gun ban in the city of chicago. not a concealed carry ban. a hand gun ban. you're not allowed to carry a hand gun in the city of chicago. the most strict gun control laws aren't helping the murder rate go down. so you apply that across they country, doesn't make any sense to apply those rule....