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It took somebody like rand paul not the "new york times," or the "washington post" to light this issue up. the only reason why this is a big story is because the story was never told. we have a story about drones, and about killing unarmed combatants in the united states. that's not a big story for the media. it takes this to happen. exposes the lack of transparency. >> bob: i was going to say, this is a really different issue here. using drones against american citizens or overseas. when they said you could kill americans with drones, even not on american soil, even if they weren't planning a...

Counterinsurgency. keep aware they could come back. focus on terrorists and get out of the country. doesn't he now look smarter than the policy we have now of this surge of almost 100,000 troops? >> keep in mind that biden has made many trips over to the country. i think he's right. i think incidents like this only e saser bait it. there will be continued turmoil. this is another signal we spent too much money and lost too many troops. >> why do they hate us so much that all it takes is something that's clearly, or no worse than done -- imagine a couple officers. worst case scenario, it's prob...

That. casey, thank you so much. live in phoenix. >> eric: jamie, with the questions over illegal immigration and border security brewing no, surprising there is a lot of confusion there. what does it say about making the border a bigger priority? je bait it with jessica vaughn, director of policy studies. clarissa martinez with the national council of la raza. thank you for joining us this morning. jessica, let me start with you if you get the 1200 national guardsmen on the boarder? will it work? >> 1200 is a drop in the bucket of what is needed to make a difference. not just a matter of putti...

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Though. we haven't seen a 30,000 foot message like this since the tea party emerged. in a way this is bigger than deficit issues. they are arguing against the big government. and the constitution is on their side. i thought it was remarkable they did it with an outdated maneuver like the fill buster to get the young people engaged. but i think the timing was actually perfect, kimberly, on this one. you see president obama lost credibility. they are feeling good after they won the sequester battle, i think. this is a trifecta for them to hit and now they have to keep it going, going forward. >>...