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Abbott addressing that today. >> first, at this point in time, we'll never declare a victory, however, it is interesting -- i still have not yet received a phone call or an apology from the president for his mischaracterizations of my actions. also, bill, just as important, all the liberals and all the media in the state of texas issued the same declaration. >> shannon: yeah, leslie, we never saw the spike of numbers. they've come down consistently in texas and are now at their lowest point. does anyone owe texas an apology? >> no, because 50,000 people, they hit the 50k mark, they had 51,000 ...

Of children, babies from their parents. it's all part of where we've gotten to now. so it's complicated, right? because i'm sure his staff is saying his staff, we can't if we own up to it. but i think that latino, la tina voters would appreciate somebody coming straight up and saying, wow, what a mistake, we shouldn't have done this. i need to take responsibility. and from there move on. by the way, i just want to say something about bait toe. christina, she was the former executive director of jolt texas, sch a latino-based electoral energizer in texas. she just dwhat job and announced two da...

Anything? >> look, i think beto o'rourke made a great showing in texas running against my former boss ted cruz. and that became, you know, a story because texas is turning blue. i used to say it was slowly turning blue you but i think it's rapidly turning blue. bait toe sort of proved the case that texas could become a blue say the. he lost by less than three points. he used social media extraordinarily well. he was interesting and innovating. but, that -- all of that hasn't translated over into the presidential campaign. and i think part of the problem is people don't see bait toe as presiden...

Specifically racist memes against kamala harris and elizabeth warren. bait toe they suggested he had a racist voice mail from the 1990s floating around out there. it's a pretty wide range of memes and hashtags but the end result is to make sure that are voters have all sorts of different opinions about these candidates. >> yeah. do you get a sense this is like 2016 or has technique -- have the techniques classiced here. >> they're pretticular so 2016. there's a recent report from a group called guardians.ai that found that 200 accounts that were closely overlapping with a group of accounts fro...

That's my question to you matt about this runoff. you see what happened in florida and young folks what happened in texas with bait toe. he's a young energetic person. isn't that progress? they almost flipped red states to blue. >> it's almost progress. so the question is what happens today. >> baby steps bakari. >> what i want to do is -- using plies as the example, i need to mike surely he stays engaged, that all of those individuals at the churches stay engaged that diddy and d.j., all of those individuals who were cutting hair. >> let's not get too far ahead of yourselves. >> stacey abrams...