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Problem on the top and the bottom. >> do you think we were -- part of what brought us to this point, professor, is that there was a concerted effort of after the end of the reconstruction and the rise of the white supremacist redemption government in the south. the entire nation, north and south, would learn history that excull pated a lot of the confederacy and it's remarkable how widespread that was and contemporary and modern that was. how much does history, the bake teaching of history in america have to change? >> oh, it has to be systematically transformed. one of the things that we didn...

Excull pated a lot of the confederacy and it's remarkable how widespread that was and contemporary and modern that was. how much does history, the bake teaching of history in america have to change? >> oh, it has to be systematically transformed. one of the things that we didn't have happen here, we didn't have our own version of the deannouncification program, a decon federation program. instead we had mass amnesty. then we had, we get these kind of monuments coming up during the rise of jim crowe particularly after the brown decision. so we get this heralding of and this narrative of souther...