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Amazing. me, i'm not conservative enough. well, we have a balanced budget with very high ratings in ohio. we're running a $2 billion surplus. there are now one-half million ohioans working who didn't have a job when i came in, but we are also helping people who struggle. whether they're mentally ill or drug addicted who were pro immigrant. if immigrants don't want to live somewhere in america, come to ohio. we like to have you there. what's wrong with that? what's wrong with caring about people? what's wrong with lifting people? and what's wrong with balancing budgets, running surpluses and cr...

Spooking wall street right now now they come up with a ten year -- they come up with a budget plan where they finally stop pretending that they even care about balancing budgets. because they've given up on that ghost, they're not going to balance the budget in five years. they say they're not going to balance the budget in ten years. they're never going to balance the budget and this budget plan says as much. take us through the numbers. >> you're absolutely right, joe. so when you look at the numbers for what's happening -- and by the way, trump's official budgets like the one today exist in...

For military, defense, homeland security, and veterans affairs. the epa is gutted, labor, state department. conservatives like this. all day long while this was being hashed out on tv, the left was saying this can't happen. this budget doesn't do what it says it's going to do because you'll never get 3% growth. they are hung up on 3% growth. from 1947 until this year, the united states has had over 3% growth. 3.21% growth and as high as 16.9% growth. when you give people more of their own money, when you spend wisely, that leads to growth. 3% is not unattainable. we had 2% growth under obama a...

You're looking up. >> selective? selective? >> you've seen that democrats have been better in terms of balancing budgets. >> barack obama. when he was a candidate, barack obama said george bush borrowing money from the bank of china in the name of our kids is $9 trillion in debt is irresponsible. >> he agree sean there are. >> he accumulated more debt than any other president before him combined. is he responsible? unpatriotic, sir? >> this is debt he's inherited. >> it happened on his watch. >> if you look at the statistics, looking at the facts, you see democrat presidents have been better f...

Move up in the polls? that's ultimately about getting people who are going to come up and caucus for jeb bush and be enthusiastic and right now, you know, the enthusiasm seems to be for trump or carson. do you see it as a long game, you're just kind of hoping that kind of donald trump starts to fate? >> yeah, i think both, anderson, for starters, we're putting together the best organization in all of the early states in iowa, new hampshire for sure and nevada where governor bush was today. you know, we've got the support of all the major elected leaders and county official and every county. yo...