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Family member. then number two, they backed that up that even if it were, it was paid back. and number three is, we don't know the chronology of when this occurred. but the fact of the matter is that can be muddied up and diffuse the campaign payment notion. that's what this is all about, dara. >> it's amazing they are muddying up what has already been muddied. >> they really are. and it is so interesting because the -- it is clear that i'll flip my analysis a little bit. we made statements on air force one later contradict bid mayor giuliani's at the same time. but again, law is not a balanci...

It, what rfra provided was a balancing test. what rfra gives these individuals is a day in court. >> but that isn't a good idea. it means everybody has to lawyer up. what about having private life, to do what you want, as long as you don't physically assault a gay person. >> in the last 22 years, there hasn't been one single case when a restaurant opener said i will not serve you because you're gay. not one single case where they won in court. >> the reason i supported the religious freedom restoration act and ted kennedy and a lot of other people nobody thought it applied to for-profit corpor...

This video, of course the french police say it's a fake. but the magazine stands by its report. arkansas gave final approval to a law similar to indiana. walmart, based in arkansas is taking a stand. it publicly came out against that bill yesterday and its ceo urged a veto back in indiana, nine ceo s have sent a law demanding it be changed. >> it cuss not give any right to deny services to anyone in this state. it's simply a balancing test used by our federal courts and jurisdictions across the country for more than two decades.

Individual people can assert. i know there are attempts to carve out exceptions, well, you can't say we are not covering blood transfusions and things but when you get down to it when they talk about sincerely reld religious views do we know if there will be a slippery slope? how can we say it won't expand this protection into other areas? >> no. there won't be a slippery slope. the opinion was clear. they said the law requires a balancing test. you have to balance the burden on religious freedom. they have made other a come days agos from this law in a different case. the balance would likely...

So they can have a day of rest and they play christian music. they donated millions to christian causes. they make no secret what kind of company they are and they said that essentially there were four of the 20 mandated contraception methods they couldn't go along with. in their belief, that can trigger abortions so there's no way to facilitating that in any way. the justice said the law makes it clear congress didn't want to discriminate in any way against men and women that want to run their business in the manner required by the religious beliefs. law protected them. the dissent not happy ...