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Like he gets less, right? but seriously, frank, this is according to a democratic source. $1.375 billion for physical barrier, for bollard fencing. the real test of the president is, you know, he's down at the border campaigning right now. what's he saying, and how are people going to react? and is he going to sign this agreement? >> well, i mean he may sign the agreement and then as kaitlan was saying, he could turn around and do an emergency declaration of some kind although that would put him at great odds with his own party. i think what's going to be interesting is watching him describe i...

President any more, but as the postreported yesterday, the one person that seems to be treeing to push the ball forward is jared kushner, but he represents a different angle of this deal that a lot of conservatives don't necessarily agree with. so it is problem after problem here with overall this, you know, impending second paycheck that people will miss tomorrow. >> and kushner is interesting to me, he is coming off of what he feels like was a big victory up here. he felt like he got a lot of traction and negotiation. i think the post said that he had a lot of self confidence, but this finis...

Doing that. you can't expect that to go on much longer-- >> it seems like each side, governor is afraid to blink or look like they've made concessions. there's been talk, president in order to get the monkey off his back here would declare an emergency, see how this goes, of course courts invariably weigh in. and at least the government would open. how do you feel? >> get the government open. get the government open. as a governor and i think i speak for 49 others, i don't care what it takes, compromise, move the ball forward, but there are services that need to be provided and people that are...

For a long time to try and get this to happen, but john bolton, national security adviser, was arguing to keep her in her position. this public grenade, if you will, essentially moved the ball forward, anderson. >> is there any indication the president actually did this firing, himself? because obviously in past firings, jeff sessions, comey comes to mind, it's not something he actually did personally. >> reporter: no, there's no indication that he walked into her office today where she was working today and said, you're fired. that did not happen. we do believe it was by staff. the white hous...

Of the first lady's office, all the people who he says voted particularly when she was illegally. the question is, does he have traveling to africa to be at the any evidence this time? beginning of october. we're keeping them honest. (vo) this is not a video game. they said that she did not treat the staff with respect. and they also said that she was trying to get the white house counsel's office to investigate members of the first lady's office, which they declined to do over some inappropriate activities. so at the end of the day, though, it was not just the first lady. the defense secretar...